Frequently Asked Questions

Shade's Landing Inc.
Minnesota DPS Approved (As required by the 2005 MCPPA law),
MN, WI, FL, AZ, IA, VA, CT, NH, ME, and PA Carry Permit Training

What is your new "Online / Hybrid" course about?
What are your company certifications?
For Sheriffs: Validate our other certified Instructors.
Can I get a FL Permit if I take your course?
Do I need to take a course to get a FL Permit?
Multiple Permits?
Shooting Qualifications
Course Fees
Range Fees
Application Fees
Experience Required
What is the minimum age for firearm activities?
Number of students per class?
Is registration required?
Can I register and pay at the door?
Location of classes
Do all students pass?
What about refunds if the MCPPA is repealed?
Why choose Shade's Landing Inc. for my firearms training?
Who are your company instructors and what are your instructor qualifications?
Lost Certificates
What John Ruskin says about price...
You believe in Glock pistols right?
Recommended Attorneys



Q: Are you approved by the Minnesota DPS, and the NRA to teach courses meeting their training requirements?

A: Yes. Our courseware has been approved by the Minnesota Department of Public Safety and more specifically the Bureau of Criminal Apprehension (BCA). Our courseware EXCEEDS the statutory course requirements.

However, Minnesota certifies ORGANIZATIONS as capable of training instructors to teach the Minnesota Personal Protection Act. They do not certify instructors (or at least are not supposed to according to law). Shade's Landing Inc. is a DPS certified organization and our instructors have been certified by Shade's Landing Inc. Further, our instructors have received training in multiple disciplines by the National Rifle Association, Minnesota DNR, and other local and national organizations.

Our co-owner is NRA certified as both an Instructor and an NRA Training Counselor capable of training individuals to teach NRA courses. We've been teaching a multistate carry course since 2003 See our individual qualifications here

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Q: Do your carry classes qualify me for carrying in multiple states?

A: Yes. In fact we were the first to incorporate multi-state permit training into our courses here in Minnesota back in September 2003 by combining Minnesota, Utah and Florida permits. Today our training enables you to apply for permits from Minnesota, Florida, Arizona, Maine, Wisconsin (WI residents only), New Hampshire, Pennsylvannia (must apply in person to a Sheriff in PA), and Virginia and other permits as well.

By combining a resident Minnesota permit and non-resident Florida, New Hampshire, and Arizona permits, you will be able to legally carry in over 37 states with new ones being added almost daily.

If you want a current list of where your permit is recognized, please visit


Resident Permits only: CO, FL, SC, MI, NH
(Resident only permits means that you must have a permit from your home state AND it must be recognized by one of the seven states above.
Example: MI recognizes your MN permit. So you must be a resident of MN and have a MN permit to carry in MI.
Wisconsin recognizes your MN permit and Illinois allows anyone with a permit to carry from their home state to travel in Illinois with a loaded firearm in their vehicle. It must remain in the vehicle if you exit the vehicle.

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Q: What is your new "Online / Hybrid" course all about?

We are proud to be THE FIRST firearm instruction company and instructor(s) to offer our students computerized learning via the Internet for their Minnesota Carry Permit.

Our NEW online Hybrid course (released on July 4th, 2009) combines online learning with classroom review and an actual shooting qualification exercise as required by law. There is no difference between the content offered online and in the classroom. You get the same high quality presentation of Safe firearm operation (basics), Use of deadly force and the law and Ethics and Responsibilities. Each learning unit is followed by a short quiz. We'll collect your results at the one-hour in-person Instructor Challege.

You have 30 days to complete three, one-hour, learning units. Once the last online unit is completed, the student will be contacted (or will contact us) and schedule the Instructor Challenge which consists of classroom review and Q & A and the range session. We schedule these sessions every Tuesday beginning at 10am (you still must call to schedule). Every student who successfully completes this course will be given a certificate of completion that is to be copied and turned into the Sheriff with a copy of your drivers license and a complete Minnesota carry permit application.

The cost is $85 (we offer a discount for you if you are renewing a MN permit) and allows you to work at your own pace to complete the course. It's just another option we give our students to fit high quality and no compromise training into their busy schedules.

You can schedule your online course by clicking here.

Q: What are the minimum ages for your courses and to shoot at the range and engage in other firearm activities?

Age Restrictions

Q: Does Florida recognize your training and credentials?

A: Yes - Florida recognizes our training. So you will be able to apply for the Florida permit with our training.

Florida is a great permit to obtain for residents or non-residents. It is currently the most recognized permit available. And you CAN get your Florida permit with our training. Florida's application fee is $112 which is paid to the State of Florida when you submit your application.

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Q: Do I need to take a firearms course to get my Florida Permit?

A: Not necessarily. Florida recognizes seven different competencies that demonstrate proficiency with a firearm. From statutes 790.06 they are:

1. Completion of any hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the Fish and Wildlife Conservation Commission or a similar agency of another state;

2. Completion of any National Rifle Association firearms safety or training course;

3. Completion of any firearms safety or training course or class available to the general public offered by a law enforcement, junior college, college, or private or public institution or organization or firearms training school, utilizing instructors certified by the National Rifle Association, Criminal Justice Standards and Training Commission, or the Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services;

4. Completion of any law enforcement firearms safety or training course or class offered for security guards, investigators, special deputies, or any division or subdivision of law enforcement or security enforcement;

5. Presents evidence of equivalent experience with a firearm through participation in organized shooting competition or military service;

6. Is licensed or has been licensed to carry a firearm in this state or a county or municipality of this state, unless such license has been revoked for cause; or

7. Completion of any firearms training or safety course or class conducted by a state-certified or National Rifle Association certified firearms instructor;

A photocopy of a certificate of completion of any of the courses or classes; or an affidavit from the instructor, school, club, organization, or group that conducted or taught said course or class attesting to the completion of the course or class by the applicant; or a copy of any document which shows completion of the course or class or evidences participation in firearms competition shall constitute evidence of qualification under this paragraph; any person who conducts a course pursuant to subparagraph 2., subparagraph 3., or subparagraph 7., or who, as an instructor, attests to the completion of such courses, must maintain records certifying that he or she observed the student safely handle and discharge the firearm;

To sum it up, a copy of your honorable military discharge or DD-214, a hunters safety education course from the DNR, or any firearms course conducted by an NRA instructor, or any NRA course (such as Basic Pistol). Florida will accept any of the above evidence of competency.

Other states such as Minnesota, and Utah (all of which we teach) require that the instructors are also approved by or certified by the state.

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Q: I lost my certificate of completion. Can you send me another signed copy of them?

Yes we can. There is a $10 lost document fee that we charge for replacement documents. There is a one-year application window from the time of your training for the Minnesota application. You can order one from our store at

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Q: I already have my Minnesota permit to carry. Can I take your course just for the Florida and Arizona qualifications for their permit application?

A: Yes, we've had hundreds of students take our Advanced Carry course even though they took their Minnesota permit training elsewhere. You can take our Wisconsin, Arizona, and Florida only class.


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Q: What is the Minnesota training requirement of an "Actual Shooting Qualification Exercise". What does it mean?

A: A good question.

The MN BCA stated on 12/04/2006 that "actual firearms" must be used in performing an actual shooting qualification exercise (which we have always used in our training). Note that the BCA has NO administrative law making capability under this law, but instead tied their interpretation to the certification of companies that provide training (i.e. do it our way or lose certification).

Further, the BCA interpretation of the 2005 MCPPA law is one that requires "live fire" (though live fire is not explicitly stated in the law). The BCA Commissioner's office issued a statement to all MCPPA instructors, (though they have no administrative law powers under MCPPA) that MN Law requires an "actual shooting qualification exercise" which is interpreted by the MN BCA (the entity who certifies training organizations) to mean an exercise using "actual firearms". If an "actual firearm" is not used, then the certifying organization risks being de-certified.

However, note that Minnesota does not have a set course of "qualification" per se. There is no fixed course of fire specified by the law, no live fire requirement fixed by statute (though the BCA as stated above has issued their interpretation of the law), no minimum caliber and the exercise is NOT a test. Each instructor is free to design their own shooting qualification exercise as they deem reasonable.

You qualify by performing the exercise and by learning something in the process. If you need work on shooting accuracy, we work with you as the exercise is being performed (within reason). You should be prepared to show us you know how to shoot as opposed to us showing you how to shoot.

In our exercise, we have you shoot 10 to 20 rounds (depending on the shooter's skill) at 15 - 21 feet. You absolutely must perform the exercise safely and of course hit your target 7 out of 10 shots minimum. We do have a firearm for your use for those of you who do not yet own a carry gun.

To pass: Handle the firearm safely and hit the target 7 out of 10 consecutive rounds in center of mass.

If we see something in your stance, grip, trigger control or other shooting fundamental that requires correction, we may have you correct the defect and shoot some more.

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Q: What consists of your actual firearm qualification exercise?

A: Our 10-shot course of fire is designed for experienced shooters. If we can't tell that you know how to handle a firearm by having you shoot 10 rounds, then we should not be instructing. In fact we tell all students that if they DO NOT know how to shoot, then shoot last so we can work with them or sign up with us and take a private lesson before you take our carry class.

If you do not do well after two attempts at our simple qualification exercise you will fail and can not be certified. However you can shoot again at another date after you've practiced on your own, or take a private lesson or our NRA Basic Pistol course. All of these options & courses carry an addtional fee.

Another way to fail this exercise is to handle the firearm in an unsafe manner.

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Q: Can I qualify with a .22 caliber pistol?

A: Yes. Minnesota law does not specify a caliber that you need to use in performing the actual shooting qualification exercise. Your focus will be on safety and safely completing the exercise. A .22 is however, too light of a cartridge to be used for reliable self-defense purposes. It is however fine for the qualification exercise.

For carry purposes, there are small handguns available in .32 and .380 calibers. Some are excellent semi-auto firearms such as the Beretta Tomcat in .32 or the Bersa Thunder or better still, the Walther PPK in .380. And of course there are excellent firearms by Glock and Walther in 9mm and .40 caliber as well. On the big-bore size there are .45, 10mm, and .357 Sig or .357 Mag. All make excellent calibers for carry and self-defense.

You choose a caliber and a firearm that is the largest caliber that you can accurately control and shoot.

The choice is yours. We won't erect any false or self-imposed barriers to your constitutional right to carry.

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Q: You believe in Glock Pistol as being one of the best carry guns right?

A: Yes. We bet our lives on them. So do 85% of all Minnesota peace officers according to Glock.

Feature for feature the Glock is one of the best combat handguns made. Some dislike it due to the grip angles and prefer instead a firearm such as the Springfield XD or 1911a. However, both of those firearms are single action firearms whereas the Glock is a double action and more suitable for everyday carry (we tell you why in our class).

I personally own and have carried the Glock, XD, and 1911a. I prefer the Glock for reliability. The Glock also has a tennifer finish on the slide making it virtually indestructible and impervious to rust. You can really abuse these firearms and they still continue to work.

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Q: I don't currently own a pistol, can I still take your course and what do you recommend I purchase?

A: Yes you can. You will qualify using one of our firearms.

When you are ready to purchase a firearm, we recommend that you purchase a firearm that:

  1. Fits you (i.e. feels "right" when gripped. Improves your safety, consistency and accuracy)
  2. That is a good self-defense caliber and commonly found (i.e. 9 mm, .40 SW, .45 ACP, .38, .357, or .380)
  3. It should be of the largest caliber that you can accurately control and shoot.
  4. One that is sufficiently compact to adequately conceal for carry and self defense purposes.
  5. Comfort: One that you can feel comfortable carrying for extended periods of time (i.e. weight of the firearm may be a consideration)

Other factors may enter into your selection such as the manufacturer's reputation for quality and service, and the safety features found on the firearm. Price may also be a consideration but it should not be your primary concern when selecting a firearm to protect yourself and loved ones.

We cover all of this and more in our class. Also, no live ammo or loaded firearms are allowed in our classroom. Leave your firearm and ammo secured in your vehicle until we go to the range

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Q: Why is everybody charging over a $100 or more for the training?

A: Not everybody charges over $100. We offer a MULTISTATE/Minnesota course for $85. And we offer you discounts. For as little as $65 - you get it all.

Here is the best quote I've ever come across in regard to pricing:

John Ruskin (1819-1900)
It’s unwise to pay too much. But it’s worse to pay too little.
When you pay too much, you lose a little money, that is all.

When you pay too little you sometimes lose everything, because the thing you
bought was incapable of doing the thing it was bought to do.

The common law of business balances prohibits paying a little and getting a
lot. It can’t be done.

If you deal with the lowest bidder it is well to add something for the risk you

And if you do that, you will have enough to pay for something better.

There is hardly anything in the world that someone can’t make a little worse
and sell a little cheaper—and people who consider price alone are this man’s
lawful prey.

Keep that in mind when you choose your Firearms Training.

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Q: Are the range fees included?

A: No. For courses that utilize a live fire and range component, the range fee is paid directly to the range by all students. The amount of the fee depends on the range and directly reflects their policies. It usually is no more than $12-$15. Sometimes we use public land to target shoot and conduct a live fire exercise where there is no fee to do so.

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Q: Do you cover my application fees to the various states when I apply for a permit to carry?

No. You are responsible for any and all application fees and fingerprinting fees or passport quality photo fees required by the various states and their licensing agents.

Q: I am a new shooter and don't know much about firearms. Can I take your carry course?

A: Yes. But we would also recommend at minimum a private lesson at the range prior to the class or while your permit application is in process.

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Q: How many students do you have in a class?

A: We typically run between 10 and 20 but will host a class of just about any size. We do have class size and payment requirements for private classes.

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Q: Why do you require registration prior to the class?

A: To ensure you have a seat in the class and so that we are able to put together all the course materials for your personal use. It takes us a full day to put together student packets and those include the production and pressing of our exclusive CD-ROM Reference that is yours to keep along with the other reference materials including text book(s) that we provide. You can now prepay for your seat in class ensuring your spot will be reserved.

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Q: Can I register for the class and pay at the door?

A: Yes. You must pre-register for the class by calling us but you can pay at the door on the day of the class and it must be in cash as we do not accept checks or credit cards on the day of the class.

You can always pay your course fees online and save $$$ on the course. You can pay your tuition fee with credit card. We accept Mastercard, Visa, and Discover and PayPal. Please note that PayPal does accept credit cards. You do not need a PayPal account to order from us.

We do not take personal checks. However, if we have a full class with prepaid customers, you may not get seated if you choose to pay at the door.

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Q: Where do you hold your classes?

A: Class locations and range locations are subject to change. You can check on a specific class and location on our schedule page. We try to pick venues that are affordable to us and that enables us to keep our classes affordable for you.

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Q: Do all of your students pass the training?

A: Not all will be certified even though we as instructors would like to see 100% successful completion rate.

We reserve the right NOT to allow a student to receive a certificate for completion of our course for any reason we deem appropriate. Possible causes & reasons for not completing the course would be:

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Q: If the legislature ever repeals the MCPPA, would I be eligible for a refund?

A: Fist we don't believe it will be repealed. No state that has passed a shall issue carry law has ever had it repealed. In answer to your question, the answer is no. In fact, in May of 2005, the legislature in Minnesota reenacted the MCPPA of 2003 after a Judge found it was passed in a method contrary to our state constitution.

Your training is still good as would be your Minnesota permit for the five years it is issued in Minnesota. Additionally, any multi-state permits that you apply for and obtain, would not be affected by the MCPPA. And you can still apply for a permit to your local Chief of Police (but it is a one-year permit instead of five year and the application fee is $10 instead of $100 under the MCPPA).

In fact, the 2005 legislature passed the MCPPA reenactment after a MN Judge (Judge Finley) declared the original law was unconstitutional based on the way it was originally passed. Instead of repeal, our state legislature has passed it twice.

If you prepay for a class and can not make it, we will issue you a gift certificate good for any future class. There are no refunds per the agreement you checked off when you paid for the class online or over the phone.

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Q: Why should I choose you for my firearms training?

A: For all the above reasons plus some. To summarize:

Certified Training Organization
Quality Instruction, many have NRA certifications, and state designations.
You receive firearms training and knowledge you can bet your life on.
Our instructors/Guest speakers have backgrounds in business, military service, classroom instruction, gunsmithing, law enforcement and the legal profession.
The broadest possible perspectives on firearms, carrying firearms in public, technical aspects of firearms, ammunition and more!
You won't suffer through myopic views of the topics being discussed.
We were the FIRST to offer a Multi-State Course in Minnesota. Ours has been offered since September 2003.
We are the most experienced Minnesota company & instructors in regards to teaching a true Multi-State Carry course
Accurate and timely information
We were the FIRST to offer an online/hybrid option for those seeking their MN permits. We began offering our online MN Permit Course on July 4th, 2009.
It is a convenient and a low cost way to get the training you desire.
People save time and money by viewing the lecture portion of the Minnesota Permit course online.
We were the FIRST to offer use of a Laser Fire Training System** in the classroom.
Learn basic defensive shooting skills in exercises that most live-fire ranges will not allow due to their liability
Come away with tips and exercises on how to train for violent encounters. Know what it takes to survive.
Multi-State Carry Course
Carry in 36 states in the Union!
You won't have to disarm on many cross country trips you may take
Real life survivor and victim scenarios
See what happens in our in-class videos where you see real-life violent encounters.
Analyze what went wrong and what you might do if you similarly face such a violent encounter.
Guest Speakers are frequently used
Get more than one perspective on important carry topics
Being instructed by experts means that you take with you a higher skill set when the class is over
We teach more than just a carry course!
All of your firearm training needs can be met by one company!
Long term relationships with a company and people you can trust.
FREE --> Unlimited phone and e-mail after-class support!
You are part of our alumni and we treat you as such
Always get your questions answered. If we don't have the answer we'll use our network of law enforcement professionals and attorneys to get your question answered.
Discounts on certain future classes
Saves you money
Use that money for other things like a power lunch, or perhaps one of training videos!
FREE --> Receive our Carry Newsletter
Timely information on what's happening with our service and product offerings
Keeps you informed and up-to-date on any changes in the law etc.
We also distribute carry related products
Shade's Landing Inc. is your one-stop shopping place for carry related items such as training videos, firearm related accessories, and more.
Saves you time, and money! Former students get discounts on select items.
FREE --> You get our exclusive Resource CD
On successful completion of the class, students receive our Advanced Carry certificate of completion This course includes all course materials, including our exclusive Resource CD. Our resource CD has all MN, UT, WI firearm laws and the laws of many states in regard to the use of deadly force. You also receive the most important MN court, appellate and MN Supreme court cases in addition to the U.S. Supreme court cases like Miller, McDonald and Heller. It is jam packed with information we've compiled so you can continue with your firearm education.
Serves as a reference for MN laws and our carry class.
FREE --> Need a refresher? Audit any carry class of ours at no charge for the next FIVE years! Simply show us your certificate from your original class and you are welcome to sit in!
Keeps you up to date with the changes in the laws.
Keeps your butt out of jail!
NOT FREE ---> but Priced for your budget!
Firearms training you can afford
Again you save money that you can use elsewhere! Use the money you save on your next trip to Las Vegas, win at the slots, become a millionaire and retire! Anything is possible when you train with Shade's Landing Inc.!


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Q: What are your instructor qualifications?

A: Good question! You should be concerned about the qualifications of your instructors.

Shade's Landing Inc.
Apple Valley MN 55124
(952) 891-1537
Gary Shade
Lead Instructor
Chief RSO/NRA Training Counselor
MN BCA/MN DNR Instructor
Former UT BCI Firearms Instructor & ND Test Administrator
Jason Shade
NRA RSO/MN BCA/MN DNR Instructor/Gunsmith
About Your Lead Instructor Gary Shade:

  • Education:
    • AAS ET,(William Rainey Harper College)
    • BSM and MSM Cardinal Stritch University
  • NRA Certifications:
    • NRA Certified Training Counselor (36 hours)
    • NRA Certified Pistol, Personal Protection in the Home, and Rifle and Shotgun Instructor (over 60 hours)
    • NRA Certified Chief Range Safety Officer
    • NRA Certified Refuse to be a Victim instructor (16 hours)
    • Hunter Clinic Program Instructor: Deer (16 hours)
  • State Certifications/Recognitions
    • Recognized by Minnesota DPS as an authorized Organization and Instructor
    • Certified Minnesota Firearms Safety
    • Minnesota Dept. of Natural Resources Certified Instructor
    • Utah BCI as an authorized Instructor (2003 - May 2014)
    • Former ND Carry Permit Test Administrator
  • Federal Firearm Licenses:
    • Curio and Relic
  • Carry Permits:
    • Minnesota
    • Utah
    • (Have also held NH, ND, and PA firearm permits)
  • Featured profile in May/June 2004 issue of Concealed Carry Magazine
  • Military
    • Former U.S.A.F.
  • President and Co-Owner of Shade's Landing Inc. (since 1995)
  • Over 20 years of teaching in various positions in post secondary education and industry
  • Civil Rights Advocate
  • Amateur Radio Operator KC0LFP and Certified Skywarn Severe Weather Observer
  • Author of five published books on Computers and Technology
  • Former Adjunct Faculty: Business Management
    • Minnesota School of Business - Shakopee campus (3 years);
    • William Rainey Harper College, Palatine Il. EET Adjunct Instructor
  • Avid hunter, and fisherman


  • Owner of Tactical Firepower Inc. and
    and JAS Machine & Tool
  • Producer, Director and Instructor of the DVD series:
    Tachtical Firepower Handgun System and Handgun Training System
  • Director of Security
    • Shade's Landing Inc.
  • Gunsmith - Pine Technical College (Degree 2007)
    • Emphasis in custom gun making
  • Certified Glock Armorer
  • Certified Minnesota Firearms Safety
  • Minnesota Dept. of Natural Resources Certified Instructor
  • Recognized by Minnesota DPS as an authorized Instructor
  • Certified Minnesota Firearms Safety and Advanced Carry Instructor
    • Recognized by the Department of Public Safety for the Minnesota Carry Course
  • NRA Certified Minnesota Range Safety Officer
  • Minnesota Carry Permit holder
  • Avid hunter, trapper and fisherman









Ryan J. Eskandary
Consultant on Military Affairs and Combat Medical

Sgt. Ryan Eskandary USMC
*Active Duty Marine Corps

*MN CCW Holder since 2005, Also UT,FL permit holder


MCPPA Instructors we have certified are: *
Call them for their class schedules and pricing - Instructors must be on ACTIVE status or they can not teach MCPPA
* Instructors we have certified are not employees of Shade's Landing Inc.
D'Juan T. Agnew Sr.
St. Paul MN
Status: ACTIVE

Beau Boss
St. Paul MN
Status: ACTIVE

Kevin Burns
Minneapolis MN
(612) 965-5797

Joel Charchenko
Stillwater MN
Home # 651-439-3672
Cell # 651-491-5473

Bryan Chant
St. Paul MN
Status: Active

Col. Mark Dugger
White Bear Lake MN

Ryan J. Eskandary
Vadnais Heights MN
Status: ACTIVE

Sgt. Ryan Eskandary USMC
*Active Duty Marine Corps

Scott Frane
Elk RiverMN
Lars Fricke
Savage MN
Status: ACTIVE
Mark Gulbrandson
Lakeville MN
STATUS: Active
Ed Gawlik
Apple Valley MN
Status: ACTIVE

Edward Jose
Staples MN

Brian Kane
LeSueur MN
Status: ACTIVE

Max Loder
Burnsville MN
Steven C. Lenhart
Apple Valley MN

Jayson Moore
Cocato MN

Mark McCallum
Morris MN
(763) 286-3763

Kristina Murch
Eagan MN

Benjamin Pena
Minneapolis MN
(612) 964-8114

Bob Rueff
Bloomington MN

Rich Schmitt
Safety Instructional Services
Coon Rapids MN
Scott Schuett
Cannon Falls
Micheal Schultz
Trimont MN
Richard Shaver Jr.
Carver MN

Mark Stevens
Austin MN
(507) 421-8096
Chris A. Stroner
Andover MN
(651) 783-2838
Doug Tuchtenhagen
(218) 779-4816
Rich Vang
Little Canada

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Attornys we Recommend:

Mark Berris
Ph: 612-332-3100
F: 612-335-3578
Commerce at the Crossings
250 Second Avenue South
Suite 225
Minneapolis, MN 55401-2161

Catherine Turner, Attorney At Law
P.O. Box 19607
Minneapolis, MN 55419
voice 612.876.1735
fax 866.663.4338
Calls answered 24/7


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